Bob Loblaw

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  Taking predictions for the 2007 memorial partakers!!

  by cultswatter in

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  i'm doing this well in advance so that all the wonderful people on jwd can look back later and see just how close they were to the actual number!

  (it is possible the wts might stop publishing the partaker numbers) in a few days, i will duly record the link to this thread for future reference.. remember that there were 8524 partakers in 2005 and 8758 partakers in 2006, an increase of 234 partakers.

  so how many remnant will partake in 2007??.

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  I think in reality the numbers will increase,...but the society will lie and publish a number that shows a decrease. They need to keep that excitement brewing that these folks are just about gone.
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  I'm going to be disfellowshipped on Wednesday

  by Thinking of Leaving in

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  the elders cames to my home on saturday and i didn't answer the door, so they told my sister to relay the message.

  the message was "you know what it's about, we're going to make the announcement next meeting".

  i knew it was coming...but it feels so weird.

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  I don't trust people very easily and I feel sometimes like I don't fit in with the world.

  I think that this is very common amongst freshly outed JW's.

  Your taught to be no part of the world. They've created an us verse them mentality. They coin words like "worldly".

  They paint the outside world as a place that members can't fit into. Throw in a close commune of like minded individuals and it allows identity and comfort to be found on the inside and a loss of identity, confusion, and fear on the outside.

  Don't sweat it. All of this goes away. You will be just fine.

  Do something you've always wanted to. Pick up a hobbie, go to school, follow a dream, but just do something.

  In doing something you will meet some real people along the way who will become amazing friends.
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  A ex-jws friend told me that she thinks JW's will accept the "mark". How?

  by booker-t in

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  a good friend of mine that is an ex-jws and now is a born again christian told me that she thinks that the wt society will demand jw's to accept the "mark" of the beast.

  i was wondering how would this happen?

  will jw's that get baptized at assemblies have to say some sort of "heil the wt society" or will they somehow denounce jehovah and jesus and praise the gb?

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  A good friend of mine that is an ex-jws and now is a born again christian told me that she thinks that the WT society will demand JW's to accept the "mark" of the beast. I was wondering how would this happen?

  One possibility:

  First of all consider the WTS teachings. They are looking for armageddon, and a "new world" to come afterwards. In recent years they have made known that they are fine with "the beast",...the United Nations. They are also looking for ones to be resurrected. One also must consider how quickly they "receive new light" and put it into affect.

  Now consider how armageddon may be played out.

  There has been a movement, mostly by the powers that be, toward a "just equitable and sustainable world" or a new world order. The movement is moving towards the idea of one currency, one world, one government, and one religion. The powers that be can and have been planting these seeds, but it will take a supernatural human, "the antichrist", to pull it all together and implement the ideas.

  According to the bible this antichrist will perform signs, wonders, and miracles to deceive the world. He will negotiate peace in Israel. The world will marvel at what he accomplishes.

  What if this antichrist ressurects a person or two? What kind of affect will that have on the WTS and it's members? What if the the antichrist speaks of returning the earth to it's original glory and speaks of a utopian society?

  Based on what the WTS wants,...they could easily buy into this and potentially accept the mark.
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  YOUR DAILY JOURNAL

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
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  dear friends,.

  much of what we do on a daily basis is routine and of no particular, earth-shaking importance.

  however, after reviewing letters of family going back to wwii, it is fascinating to read what dad was doing on board the aircraft carrier in the pacific on any old day, what mom was cooking on her ever-steaming range, how i was dealing with the roller coaster of emotion at bethel [mom saved all my letters], how nana wrote that she would not study with the witnesses [per my request] but 'here are some mittens i knitted for you when you canvass new york with your magazines.

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  Hey CoCo,

  I'm getting ready to get off of work. A little drowsy right now,...so contemplating either taking a nap or grabbing some coffee. Lord knows I have a ton of stuff to do. I should grab the coffee.

  My mind has been occupied by my family lately and their responses to my most recent questions. I have three members still in the borg. I'm DA'd and haven't had any kind of a relationship with them in 15 years.

  I decided that I'm going to send them a question about every other week or so. I have nothing to lose. It's not like they can shun me more than they already are.

  So far I have been surprised that they have actually been replying to me. Of course, its the same mandated witness speak paranoia. Yet, I really didn't think they would send me a reply period.

  The latest topic is the tetragrammaton and why the NWT translators added the name Jehovah into the their New Testament.

  So as I go home, I wonder what the content of their next email will be and contemplate the my next question for them.

  Perhaps this action will do nothing. Or perhaps this action will have ill effects,...but just the fact that I'm taking action has given me a little hope.
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  A SUCKER FOR BORDER COLLIES

  by Dansk in

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  ok, i admit it, claire and i are dog mad!

  last saturday we travelled to mid-wales to pick up a border collie puppy!

  he's nine weeks old and we've called him ronnie (my son, dominic's, choice).

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  Thanks emo,

  maybe this will work.

  http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chews1ku3.jpg
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  A SUCKER FOR BORDER COLLIES

  by Dansk in

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  ok, i admit it, claire and i are dog mad!

  last saturday we travelled to mid-wales to pick up a border collie puppy!

  he's nine weeks old and we've called him ronnie (my son, dominic's, choice).

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  Wow, it worked.

  That's my girl. She's part border collie part chow. She has a love/hate relationship with squirrels.

  This is a portrait painted by my girlfriend.
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  A SUCKER FOR BORDER COLLIES

  by Dansk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, i admit it, claire and i are dog mad!

  last saturday we travelled to mid-wales to pick up a border collie puppy!

  he's nine weeks old and we've called him ronnie (my son, dominic's, choice).

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  Let's see if this works.
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  kyrios--did the NWT pick and choose it's translation in the NT

  by Bob Loblaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey everybody,.

  i'm not new,...just needed to change my alias.. .

  anywho.

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  Cooler King- thanks for the commentary.

  Doug- thanks for the examples. I definitely need them.
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  kyrios--did the NWT pick and choose it's translation in the NT

  by Bob Loblaw in

  1. watchtower
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  hey everybody,.

  i'm not new,...just needed to change my alias.. .

  anywho.

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  Thanks Narkissos,

  I wanted to make sure I wasn't way out in left field on this.
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  kyrios--did the NWT pick and choose it's translation in the NT

  by Bob Loblaw in

  1. watchtower
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  hey everybody,.

  i'm not new,...just needed to change my alias.. .

  anywho.

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  Hey everybody,

  I'm not new,...just needed to change my alias.

  Anywho. Topic....the Tettragrammaton.

  I've recently read the WTS's excuses why they've inserted the word Jehovah into the new testament even though no ancient NT greek manuscripts contain YHWH.

  Therefore, my question is regarding the greek work kyrios.

  Correct me if i'm wrong here,...but they've translated kyrios into Jehovah is some cases and kyrios into Lord in others.

  Is this true?

  If so,...shouldn't kyrios be translated consistently? It should (for them) either be Lord throughout or Jehovah throughout...or did they base the translation of the word on context.

  Romans 10: 9 , For if you publicly declare that ‘word in your own mouth,’ that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.

  Of course they couldn't translate the above verse to read "Jesus is Jehovah" for obvious reasons,...but this whole process of taking one greek word and picking and choosing when It's appropriate to use Lord and when it's appropriate to use Jehovah seems very counterfeit because it really affects the meaning. Therefore is the WTS playing God in their translation process?

  I'm the furthest thing from an expert,...so I'm just trying to grasp all this a little bit better.